The Whoppers of 2011

Despite what you may have heard in 2011:

The new health care law won’t cost many jobs (and they’ll be poorly paying jobs at that).
Republicans aren’t proposing to “end” Medicare (and Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden has signed onto a modified version of the GOP plan).
Most of the “millionaires” who would pay higher tax rates under a Democratic proposal aren’t job-creating small-business owners.
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Posted by Fabrice Florin - via FactCheck
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Posted by: Posted by Fabrice Florin - Dec 20, 2011 - 3:13 PM PST
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Edited by: Dwight Rousu - Dec 21, 2011 - 4:39 PM PST
Fred Gatlin
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by Fred Gatlin - Dec. 22, 2011

This is a concise example of issues with fact checks. To be fair they seem to diminish some facts and overact to others. Their answer to End Medicare is an example. If a worker is just less than 55 his Medicare will change dramatically and with the Republican’s positions why do they think those over 65 are safe?

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Dwight Rousu
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by Dwight Rousu - Dec. 23, 2011

Bias that results in calling the truth a lie is usually considered bad journalistic practice.

There are some good people working at FactCheck. The top dog seems not to fit that description.

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Judith Davidsen
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by Judith Davidsen - Dec. 22, 2011

Not good. FactCheck is playing semantic games with the Medicare issue. If, in 10 years or so, all those turning 65 will have to use vouchers to purchase private insurance, there is no way you can call that Medicare. Right now, basic Medicare has no private component. Right now Medicare does not require the elderly to go shopping for insurance. No matter how Jackson spins this, Sen Wyden (D)'s working with the Republicans doesn't make the plan Medicare. Every single Democrat could agree with the Republicans and it would still be the end of Medicare. Yes, today's elderly will continue to be covered by traditional basic Medicare but refusing it to the next generation is the end of Medicare. Call it what you want, but ... More »

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Mike Carlson
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by Mike Carlson - Dec. 21, 2011

Like all those purporting to be truth tellers (including myself) one has to look to one own biases to interpret the results. In this case FactCheck has outdone itself on blowing the whistle on the End Medicare facts. In fact, the Ryan plan would end Medicare for those still working and paying into the system. The only reason they didn't touch current Medicare recipients' benefits is that they want to be reelected. Had the Ryan plan been implemented anyone paying into the system ... More »

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Fabrice Florin
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by Fabrice Florin - Dec. 21, 2011
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Kristin Gorski
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by Kristin Gorski - Dec. 22, 2011

I'm reading more about the notion of "false equivalence" in fact-checking organizations. Apparently FactCheck's description of the first Democratic whopper (Republicans would 'end Medicare') has received critiques from Paul Krugman, among others. After reading his column, another from HuffPo, and comments on both pieces, I'm still not sure what is accurate. Is the argument here only about wording or is there something more? Anyone with enlightening links, please post so we can get ... More »

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mazhar
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by mazhar - Dec. 22, 2011

Very well researched

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