In Senate Deal, Details Bedevil Illegal Migrants

o become full legal residents, under a compromise Senate leaders announced Thursday, Mr. Ramírez and other illegal immigrants would have to pay a total of $5,000 in fines, more than 14 times the typical weekly earnings on the streets here, return to their home countries at least once, and wait as long as eight years. During the wait, they would have limited possibilities to bring other family members. Full Story »

Posted by Kaizar Campwala
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Topics: Immigration
Member Tags: No Solutions, The Devil is in the details
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Posted by: Posted by Kaizar Campwala - May 19, 2007 - 11:41 AM PDT
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Jim Mac Donald
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by Jim Mac Donald - Oct. 1, 2008

This is a typical Times story which highlights the negative, but is worth reading since we don't yet know what is buried in the actual act. Anything as thich as this bundle of paper contains a "poison pill" someplace. If the border is truly closed [very unlikely] then perhaps a few of the 12 million will take this on! Most typical bureaucratic nonsense that come out of Washington. Sad!

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David Starr
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by David Starr - Oct. 1, 2008

This story starts out with quotes from migrant workers, hardly an informed source on a 380 page bill. It does not say how many immigrants per year would be allowed into the US. It does not talk about any border enforcement measures (fences) nor about employer verification of applicant's citizenship. The authors opine that a $5000 dollar fine is "no big deal" for migrant workers, which sounds odd. I make more than a migrant worker and $5000 is a big deal to me. Bottom line. Article is long on opinions, long on quotes from uninformed sources, and short on real facts. I doubt that the authors have actually read the proposed bill. Clearly the authors feel it is a good bill. I might even agree with them, but the author's don't ... More »

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Patricia L'Herrou
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by Patricia L'Herrou - Oct. 1, 2008

this is early days for immigrant responses to this proposal; the bigger picture won't be complete until the bill is a fait accompli, and whatever 'unintended consequences' begin to appear. But, the journalists here offer a glimpse into how they may view it. the story presents many facts about the bill and opinions from various knowledgable viewpoints. part of the bigger picture are the stories, not in this piece, of those who have come and stayed and the indignities they have suffered both in their native country and here. Parties working together on this issue, divisive for the american public, offers hope for a positive resolution.

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Kaizar Campwala
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by Kaizar Campwala - Oct. 1, 2008
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Jami Dwyer
2.8
by Jami Dwyer - Oct. 1, 2008

Good perspectives from a few illegal immigrants, but not particularly informative on actual details of the bill.

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Gerardine O'Hare
3.5
by Gerardine O'Hare - Oct. 1, 2008

This article is certainly informative. If nothing else it shows that even with these different proposals there still is no proper solution to this problem. Through interviews with "Illegal" immigrants, and legal ones, the author does how us the plight of these people.

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